Comments on: The Immigration Tidal Wave http://brownsludge.com/2006/04/10/the-immigration-tidal-wave/ A Conservative Combatting Corporatism Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:05:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Mac http://brownsludge.com/2006/04/10/the-immigration-tidal-wave/#comment-64 Fri, 28 Apr 2006 03:46:38 +0000 http://brownsludge.com/2006/04/10/the-immigration-tidal-wave/#comment-64 We'll agree to disagree on the "Corporate Capitalism" issue, as I'm sure you know that I'll never drink that particular brand of Kool-Aid. But I'm curious about something you said : "This would also solve the problem of low wages taking jobs from Americans." How would more legal immigrants solve the problem of taking jobs from Americans? Are you speaking solely on the wage issue? I get the idea that you're making the argument that if employer's could no longer pay sub-standard wages that they'd hire less illegals? Or have I misunderstood your argument? -Mac- We’ll agree to disagree on the “Corporate Capitalism” issue, as I’m sure you know that I’ll never drink that particular brand of Kool-Aid.

But I’m curious about something you said :

“This would also solve the problem of low wages taking jobs from Americans.”

How would more legal immigrants solve the problem of taking jobs from Americans? Are you speaking solely on the wage issue? I get the idea that you’re making the argument that if employer’s could no longer pay sub-standard wages that they’d hire less illegals? Or have I misunderstood your argument?

-Mac-

]]> by: Steve Verdon http://brownsludge.com/2006/04/10/the-immigration-tidal-wave/#comment-61 Thu, 27 Apr 2006 23:24:06 +0000 http://brownsludge.com/2006/04/10/the-immigration-tidal-wave/#comment-61 <i>The solution is obvious – make illegal immigration… LEGAL. As Emeril Lagasse would say. BAM! There it is. When someone gets behind the idea that illegal immigration is necessary because Corporate America needs all that exploitable cheap labor – you have crossed a boundary that is nothing short of astonishing in it’s cynicism. Don’t believe me? </i> Uhhmmm no. The problem isn't corporate America, but those idiot Republicans and Democrats. Things like Social Security (which Reagan saved in the 1980s, and Bush can't seem to "reform") and things like Bush's Medicare Drug plan. We have a massive demographic shift that is going to happen. The currently working Boomers are going to start retiring and putting huge demands on various social services and welfare programs. On the positive side, allowing for more legal immigration removes the hard place that many illegal immigrants find themselves up against when it comes to wages. That is they wont be at the mercy of employers who threaten to call ICE. This would also solve the problem of low wages taking jobs from Americans. Kind of shoots your "Corporate Capitalism" canard in the foot. Not that I expect you to omit this error. The solution is obvious – make illegal immigration… LEGAL.

As Emeril Lagasse would say. BAM! There it is.

When someone gets behind the idea that illegal immigration is necessary because Corporate America needs all that exploitable cheap labor – you have crossed a boundary that is nothing short of astonishing in it’s cynicism. Don’t believe me?

Uhhmmm no. The problem isn’t corporate America, but those idiot Republicans and Democrats. Things like Social Security (which Reagan saved in the 1980s, and Bush can’t seem to “reform”) and things like Bush’s Medicare Drug plan.

We have a massive demographic shift that is going to happen. The currently working Boomers are going to start retiring and putting huge demands on various social services and welfare programs.

On the positive side, allowing for more legal immigration removes the hard place that many illegal immigrants find themselves up against when it comes to wages. That is they wont be at the mercy of employers who threaten to call ICE. This would also solve the problem of low wages taking jobs from Americans.

Kind of shoots your “Corporate Capitalism” canard in the foot. Not that I expect you to omit this error.

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